Will Trumps election affect international student acceptance rates?

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With trumps recent win, and the implied threats to immigration laws that come with him, will programs take fewer international students?
 
Give people some time to recover from the shock of his win. Trump is unpredictable. He may not do what he said and he may do things he said he won't.
It will be a while until we know how this turns out.
 
I think the immigrants Trump opposes may be more specifically illegal immigrants—the ones who cross the border, stay without permission, and sometimes even bring over extended family members in a disorganized manner.

I recall he even said back in June that he wanted foreign nationals who graduate from U.S. colleges to “automatically” receive green cards because they often “return to India, return to China, start companies, hire employees, and eventually become billionaires” there. He felt that this was, to some extent, a loss for the U.S. Admittedly, it may have just been a passing remark, but it does reflect his preference for high-skilled talent to some degree.
Considering that the Republican platform generally leans toward "small government, big market," encouraging businesses to take on more responsibilities, this could also benefit our future employers to some extent. While we as international students don’t have voting rights, our employers, who want to retain their high-skilled employees, may indirectly support policies that attract and retain top talent.

Of course, visas remain a significant issue. During the pandemic, some of my seniors were denied visas to study abroad, which was a big blow for them.:cry:
Also, as Andy mentioned, we never really know what Trump’s next move will be.😵‍💫 The thoughts above are just my own humble speculations based on limited understanding. Perhaps we’ll only know for sure what will happen when it actually unfolds.
 
Andy Nguyen said:
I think this question is worthy of a serious discussion.
The right question should be "will less students come to the US during the second Trump presidency?"
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I don’t feel rattled, to be honest. I think it’s a risk worth taking. No risk, no story. Even in QT, you can make any money without taking risks. :)
 
As widely feared, Stephen Miller is named into Trump administration with a much extensive role. Miller has authored most of Trump anti-immigration rules.
www.nytimes.com

Trump Transition Signals Focus on Deportations, as Miller Assumes Influence

President-elect Donald Trump is expected to name the immigration hard-liner Stephen Miller as deputy chief of staff and announced a former ICE official as his “border czar.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Chuanzhen Wang said:
I think the immigrants Trump opposes may be more specifically illegal immigrants—the ones who cross the border, stay without permission, and sometimes even bring over extended family members in a disorganized manner.

I recall he even said back in June that he wanted foreign nationals who graduate from U.S. colleges to “automatically” receive green cards because they often “return to India, return to China, start companies, hire employees, and eventually become billionaires” there. He felt that this was, to some extent, a loss for the U.S. Admittedly, it may have just been a passing remark, but it does reflect his preference for high-skilled talent to some degree.
Considering that the Republican platform generally leans toward "small government, big market," encouraging businesses to take on more responsibilities, this could also benefit our future employers to some extent. While we as international students don’t have voting rights, our employers, who want to retain their high-skilled employees, may indirectly support policies that attract and retain top talent.

Of course, visas remain a significant issue. During the pandemic, some of my seniors were denied visas to study abroad, which was a big blow for them.:cry:
Also, as Andy mentioned, we never really know what Trump’s next move will be.😵‍💫 The thoughts above are just my own humble speculations based on limited understanding. Perhaps we’ll only know for sure what will happen when it actually unfolds.
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Gonna be honest with you i don’t know when Trump ever said that, but that type of thinking is the exact opposite of his platform. One example of him showing interest in deporting legal migrants, are the Haitian communities in Springfield, OH which he’s said numerous times that “they’re in the US illegally” and that he wants to deport them.

The Republican platform that you reference is warped to a new reality in the modern Post-Obama era. Republicans tend to support protectionist policies and isolationism: i.e. tariffs and stemmed migration. Which are the exact opposite of small government big market.

I would argue that it’s very clear that the outlook for international students looks worse than ever under a Trump presidency. While we cannot know exactly what Trump will do with his power, history shows that his interest in providing green cards is limited at best. One example of this from his previous presidency we can point to is the “Muslim ban”; an instance where international students from Muslim majority countries were denied visas.

Overall, I am not trying to make future international students pessimistic about their prospects in America, but I think it’s important to recognize there is likely no possible outcome where this most recent election is a positive for international students.
 
kombuchalover said:
Gonna be honest with you i don’t know when Trump ever said that, but that type of thinking is the exact opposite of his platform. One example of him showing interest in deporting legal migrants, are the Haitian communities in Springfield, OH which he’s said numerous times that “they’re in the US illegally” and that he wants to deport them.

The Republican platform that you reference is warped to a new reality in the modern Post-Obama era. Republicans tend to support protectionist policies and isolationism: i.e. tariffs and stemmed migration. Which are the exact opposite of small government big market.

I would argue that it’s very clear that the outlook for international students looks worse than ever under a Trump presidency. While we cannot know exactly what Trump will do with his power, history shows that his interest in providing green cards is limited at best. One example of this from his previous presidency we can point to is the “Muslim ban”; an instance where international students from Muslim majority countries were denied visas.

Overall, I am not trying to make future international students pessimistic about their prospects in America, but I think it’s important to recognize there is likely no possible outcome where this most recent election is a positive for international students.
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Here you can find the news: Trump says he wants foreign nationals who graduate from US colleges to ‘automatically’ receive green cards

When I previously mentioned "small government, big market," I was mainly referring to the Republican policies directed toward domestic businesses. The GOP often leans toward cutting taxes and reducing regulations to stimulate market vitality. These policies can positively impact businesses by improving their operational conditions and boosting revenue. (I must admit that I have a personal stake here, as I am working hard toward staying in the U.S. for employment after my master’s degree. Part of my thinking is that if business conditions improve, companies may hire more and offer higher salaries, which could help alleviate the employment challenges in the quantitative finance industry. But I have to acknowledge that my logic here may not necessarily hold.)

In addition, after reading more about historical policy analysis and future policy forecasts, I’ve noticed that there seem to be far more negative predictions than positive ones, and the evidence for the former is often more substantial. So, I’m gradually starting to lean toward the belief that these policies could indeed be a disadvantage for international students—especially after learning about past proposals to alter H1B visa policies.😞😞 I realize that, to some extent, I may be engaging in "selective belief," meaning I’m more inclined to believe the news that aligns with my hopes. But maybe that’s not a bad thing? After all, this has been my dream for so far. There are definitely challenges ahead, but I still want to face them head-on.
 
Chuanzhen Wang said:
Here you can find the news: Trump says he wants foreign nationals who graduate from US colleges to ‘automatically’ receive green cards

When I previously mentioned "small government, big market," I was mainly referring to the Republican policies directed toward domestic businesses. The GOP often leans toward cutting taxes and reducing regulations to stimulate market vitality. These policies can positively impact businesses by improving their operational conditions and boosting revenue. (I must admit that I have a personal stake here, as I am working hard toward staying in the U.S. for employment after my master’s degree. Part of my thinking is that if business conditions improve, companies may hire more and offer higher salaries, which could help alleviate the employment challenges in the quantitative finance industry. But I have to acknowledge that my logic here may not necessarily hold.)

In addition, after reading more about historical policy analysis and future policy forecasts, I’ve noticed that there seem to be far more negative predictions than positive ones, and the evidence for the former is often more substantial. So, I’m gradually starting to lean toward the belief that these policies could indeed be a disadvantage for international students—especially after learning about past proposals to alter H1B visa policies.😞😞 I realize that, to some extent, I may be engaging in "selective belief," meaning I’m more inclined to believe the news that aligns with my hopes. But maybe that’s not a bad thing? After all, this has been my dream for so far. There are definitely challenges ahead, but I still want to face them head-on.
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Best of luck to you!
 
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