COMPARE NYU Tandon MFE vs Fordham University MQF

[Aaron_Niu]

Fordham MSQF is dogshit. They need to hire quality faculty not find guinea pigs for irrelevant program. I would take the money and go on a world trip.

Please do not insult or make any claim without evidence even if you personally prefer Tandon.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

From everything I found online sourced during the past years, until today, the two programs have about equal quality (all factors like courses, placements, reputation, etc).

It is noticed that for this year Tandon becomes harder to get in (standard tests, GPA, etc). However, the quality of a program should not mostly depend on its students' hard profile, neither should it depend on the change of one single significant person of the program.

In my opinion, From the perspective of learning, MSQF will be a better choice for you @DamienKYC.

I assume that you already got enough information from this site discussing about Tandon, so in case you need, here is the email of the Fordham MSQF program director, Professor Douglas Blackburn: blackburn@fordham.edu.

Good luck!

 

[TehRaio]

honestly I would rather pay for a Master in mathematics at a state university than pay for Fordham.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

honestly I would rather pay for a Master in mathematics at a state university than pay for Fordham.

Well it truly depends on your goal, and your ambition for your life. Of course you can and should go master in mathematics in state or community college if you think that's what you need, instead of MFE that combining Math, Finance and CS knowledge to be for example a future quant or a high-level trader.

You can also chose to pay tuition only for a brand or a big name (of a school or whatever), but later you will realize and have to accept that what truly matters for your life is what you have actually learned instead these trivial things. I researched MSQF in detail, and one point besides good reputation, it seems like their curriculum is the best, and prepare us for the most, while students need to work harder than those of most other programs. I can tell you that this is always the life that I enjoy and this philosophy never brings me bad outcomes.

Different people have different goals, my opinion may not be suitable for your goal, but I would say if I applied for both and both accepted me, I would definitely choose Fordham. Please do some research before making groundless claims.

 

[TehRaio]

fordham is not known for mathematics, not known for computer science.
it's possible they have a decent mba, who knows but relatively speaking they don't compare to what's already done in new york.

I would never spend money on fordham, hell no, I'd rather take my money travel the world, maybe study at a french or swiss elite university for cheap, and eat croissants everyday.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

fordham is not known for mathematics, not known for computer science.
it's possible they have a decent mba, who knows but relatively speaking they don't compare to what's already done in new york.

I would never spend money on fordham, hell no, I'd rather take my money travel the world, maybe study at a french or swiss elite university for cheap, and eat croissants everyday.

Again it is because you did not research their MSQF and here you are making claims.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

fordham is not known for mathematics, not known for computer science.
it's possible they have a decent mba, who knows but relatively speaking they don't compare to what's already done in new york.

I would never spend money on fordham, hell no, I'd rather take my money travel the world, maybe study at a french or swiss elite university for cheap, and eat croissants everyday.

It is your choice to be provincial or not ( cough traveling around the world cough)

 

[Aaron_Niu]

fordham is not known for mathematics, not known for computer science.
it's possible they have a decent mba, who knows but relatively speaking they don't compare to what's already done in new york.

I would never spend money on fordham, hell no, I'd rather take my money travel the world, maybe study at a french or swiss elite university for cheap, and eat croissants everyday.

Did you take the GRE before? Okay let me ask you, does "Fordham not known for Math or CS" means "MSQF is not good at these skills or teaching these?"

 

[Aaron_Niu]

fordham is not known for mathematics, not known for computer science.
it's possible they have a decent mba, who knows but relatively speaking they don't compare to what's already done in new york.

I would never spend money on fordham, hell no, I'd rather take my money travel the world, maybe study at a french or swiss elite university for cheap, and eat croissants everyday.

Besides more than required level of math and CS for a MFE, we cannot ignore the finance part; people who took the program before, commented that the level of MSQF finance is about equal to national ranked #70-#80 Phd Finance program. No one said it is easy, but it is worthwhile. Again people have different goals, I have my reason preferring Fordham QF over many others including Tandon MFE.

 

[chai_risk]

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You can also chose to pay tuition only for a brand or a big name (of a school or whatever), but later you will realize and have to accept that what truly matters for your life is what you have actually learned instead these trivial things.

 

[TehRaio]

yeah, seems like aaron here is trying to justify a little too much a poor decision he might have made. I mean, It's possible on earth-2 fordham is actually the harvard of that universe, not on this earth though

 

[Aaron_Niu]

yeah, seems like aaron here is trying to justify a little too much a poor decision he might have made. I mean, It's possible on earth-2 fordham is actually the harvard of that universe, not on this earth though

Maybe because we are in the different economic stage? I don't care it is 30k or 60k or 90k as long as I get what the industry think as valuable. You can say whatever you want but MSQF has everything you mentioned, reputation, placement, resources from the business school. I would say NYU MSMF, CMU, Columbia MFE, UCLA are better programs in some way, but not like the groundless claim you made okay? What you ended up with by the way, before you care about other people's business?

p.s. I saw one of you guys reply disappeared, but my reply partly for that as well.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

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I did not see anything wrong. If anything incorrect or inaccurate, give evidence.

 

[pingu]

... I have my reason preferring Fordham QF over many others including Tandon MFE.

Which are those reasons?

 

[Aaron_Niu]

Which are those reasons?

I think I already implied a lot of them in the previous posts.

For the MSQF program (I do not say the business school nor the whole university), includes but not limited to great reputation, over 90% full time placement 3-6 months, small size and great location (Manhattan), the best resources that provided by the whole business school and extremely focus on individual's internship and development, the heaviest workload as well as the one of the best foundation for most MFEs (can take a look at their curriculum, maybe one drawback some will say is relatively less flexibility, but which is a actually great thing from my view).

 

[pingu]

I think I already implied a lot of them in the previous posts.

For the MSQF program (I do not say the business school nor the whole university), includes but not limited to great reputation, over 90% full time placement 3-6 months, small size and great location (Manhattan), the best resources that provided by the whole business school and extremely focus on individual's internship and development, the heaviest workload as well as the one of the best foundation for most MFEs (can take a look at their curriculum, maybe one drawback some will say is relatively less flexibility, but which is a actually great thing from my view).

I might agree with everything except the "great reputation" bit.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

I might agree with everything except the "great reputation" bit.

I would say you may be right --- for outside NYC, relative to some other brands there.

 

[pingu]

I would say you may be right --- for outside NYC, relative to some other brands there.

I've lived in NY for 20+ years. Fordham might be known for a lot of things. Quant Finance is not one of them.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

I've lived in NY for 20+ years. Fordham might be known for a lot of things. Quant Finance is not one of them.

Yes I have to admit that you have a heavier voice than me to comment on this reputation thing, generally speaking.

Still, from what I learned, MSQF is a relatively new program rising in the recent years, this might be a reason (that you did not hear about it quite a lot); most relevant position employers in NYC know the quality of the students from here however. Also, it might be the case that either you or I misused the term reputation. What I meant is about the feedback from previous graduates (this part truly outweighs Tandon) / history data of employment results (for this I don't think Tandon has its data for the past, but I personally think Tandon is a rising program as well; notice that I did not insult on whatever I do not like, like some other person who posted replies did, respect is important in sites like this!).

p.s. For international students, there are in fact a lot of voices and appreciations from international students graduated from MSQF (fulfilled their short-term goals). Today MSQF is no doubt the best of Fordham or its business school.

 

[Aaron_Niu]

Yes I have to admit that you have a heavier voice than me to comment on this reputation thing, generally speaking.

Still, from what I learned, MSQF is a relatively new program rising in the recent years, this might be a reason (that you did not hear about it quite a lot); most relevant position employers in NYC know the quality of the students from here, however. Also, it might be the case that either you or I misused the term reputation. What I meant is about the feedback from previous graduates (this part truly outweighs Tandon) / history data of employment results (for this I don't think Tandon has its data for the past, but I personally think Tandon is a rising program as well; notice that I did not insult on whatever I do not like, like some other person who posted replies did, respect is important in sites like this!).

p.s. For international students, there are in fact a lot of voices and appreciations from international students graduated from MSQF (fulfilled their short-term goals).

Listening to one of my MSQF friend's suggestion, I will stop here and not spending more time on the meaningless arguments.